3 Replies Latest reply on Jan 25, 2013 1:58 PM by patrick

    Problem with passing data from Total reach DDS-R to Total Access 850 Ds0DP card

    mjdewalt New Member

      Let me describe to you the total circuit design and then then the problem.  I am being handed off from the leased line provider a 56K DDS circuit.  It terminates in my telco room to an Adtran Total reach DDS-R term unit where it gives me the standard 4 wire DDS connection.  It is then connected through 66 block to my Total Access 850 TDM channel bank to a DS0DP card set for 56K.  On the far end of the T1, I have another Total Access 850 channel bank with a OCUDP card installed in the same time slot as the office end DS0DP.  Connected to the far end OCUDP is a Cisco router with a 56K DDS wan interface.  The wan card on the cisco router shows TD and RD lights and CD lights and the OCUDP shows a solid green status light, indicating to me that that end of the circuit is functioning properly.


      As far as the office or master end of this is concerned, I have a solid green status light on the DS0DP.  But that doesn't change no matter what you connect up to it.  The problem I'm having, which I believe is keeping me from passing data from the leased line provider out to the far end of circuit to the Cisco router, is that the Total Reach DDS-R shows a "No DSU" light on it even while connected to the DS0DP card.  If I bring the Cisco router up to the office end and plug it in directly to the Total reach term unit, the No Dsu light goes out and the router has proper connectivity and I can ping the router, so I know that I'm getting data from the leased line provider.  I see no switches or see no configuration within the BCU that would make the DS0DP card seem like a DSU to the Total reach DDS-R.  I'm assuming that, until the No DSU light can be turned off, it won't pass data through to the rest of my circuit.


      Does anyone have any idea how I can fix this situation?

        • Re: Problem with passing data from Total reach DDS-R to Total Access 850 Ds0DP card
          patrick Employee

          Thank you for using the ADTRAN Support Forums.

           

          I believe you are correct, and that the problem is between the DDS-R and the DS0 DP, but unfortunately the DS0 DP STATUS LED only shows green for "Normal" or yellow for "In Test".

          On the TA 850, go into MODULES, and then the DS0 DP module and look at STATUS. If it shows "All Zeros on Drop Side   Yes" then the DS0 DP is not receiving the DDS circuit (instead it is all zeros), and it may be a simple wiring issue. If the "All Zeros" is YES, then try swapping the Tx and Rx pair from the DDS-R at the 66-block. You can also try doing a DDS loopback by shorting the Tx to the Rx, and having the Cisco connected off the OCU DP to verify the signal loops up going through all the equipment.

           

          Thank you,

          Patrick

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            • Re: Problem with passing data from Total reach DDS-R to Total Access 850 Ds0DP card
              mjdewalt New Member

              Took a look at the status on the DS0Dp card and it indeed shows all zeros on drop side as being "yes"  I also swapped tx and rx to see if that changed anything and it didn't.  It seems as if there should be voltage across the pairs measured tip - tip, ring - ring.  When you measure the OCUDP end of the circuit, with the router unconnected there is 52v and with the router connected, 25V.  And when you look at the OCUDP status within the channel bank when the router is connected you get a Yes for sealing current, and a No when the router is disconnected.  When you measure on the office end of the circuit across the TX and RX pairs on the DS0DP, you get 0 volts.  There is the typical 9.86 volts across the pairs on the Total Reach DDS-R.

               

              Shouldn't there be voltage on the DS0DP pairs on the 66 block with nothing connected to it like the OCUDP card?  This really seems to me that this is the problem.  No matter what I do, we can't get rid of the "No DSU" light.

            • Re: Problem with passing data from Total reach DDS-R to Total Access 850 Ds0DP card
              patrick Employee

              I have been in touch with our carrier network support, and have learned that the Total Reach DDS-R will not work with the DS0-DP/OCU-DP equipment used to extend the circuit. The NO DSU LED stays on at the Total Reach DDS-R because it doesn’t see terminated DSU/CSU connected to it. The DSU/CSU terminates the sealing current and basically give a path back so we see the sealing current coming back which extinguishes the NO DSU LED. The OCUDP/DSODP’s don’t do that.

               

              Th final word is that you cannot use the DS0-DP/OCU-DP to extend a circuit being dropped off from a Total Reach DDS-R.