4 Replies Latest reply on Aug 23, 2013 9:31 AM by david

    Bookend PRI across Site to Site

    b124jr New Member

      I have read the document about book ending, but need to look at a configuration example to better understand the steps in delivering a PRI across ethernet from site A to site B. Can anyone provide a sample config?

       

      PRItoMainPBX-->916e-->NV1544-->Fiber-->NV1335-->916e-->PRIto2ndPBX

       

      Thanks,

      Blake

        • Re: Bookend PRI across Site to Site
          jayh Hall_of_Fame

          Exact configuration depends on your scenario, but this is very easily done.  Variables include whether either or both 916e units will also be routing calls to the PSTN via a SIP provider, or if this is a strict tie-trunk scenario.  If also routing to PSTN, do that first and then build the tie-trunk.

           

          First figure out your dial plan.  If all of the extensions at each PBX have the same leading digit and length it is a lot easier.  For example Site A has extensions 2000-2999 and site B has extensions 5000-5999, then you would configure as follows:

           

          At site A

          • Create an ISDN trunk facing the PBX
          • Create a trunk group that accepts 2XXX and include the ISDN trunk
          • Create a SIP trunk pointing to the IP address of site B
          • Create a trunk group that accepts 5XXX and include the SIP trunk

           

          Site B is the reciprocal of site A.

           

          Considerations and gotchas:

          • Timing sources - if either PBX is also connected to a PRI from a carrier you'll want to have the PBX clock from that carrier and then have the TA912 clock from the PBX.
          • PBX programming - PBXs treat PRIs as trunks and you probably want seamless dialing as if extensions.  On the PBX create a trunk facing the Adtran with a trunk access code of the leading digit of the other side ("5" at site A).  Set the PBX to not return a dial tone after the trunk code and also to not strip it.  This is a bit unconventional, for example a typical PBX uses a trunk code of "9", strips the 9, and returns a second dial tone for a PSTN trunk.  Clueful PBX vendors will understand if you describe it as a tie trunk, less clueful ones will need some hand-holding.
          • If either site will use the other for calls out to the PSTN, then you'll need to pass those through to the other side.  Modify your dial plan to allow the pattern on the trunk in that direction as well as the extensions.  Be careful with 9-1-1 in this scenario.  You can manipulate the ANI for emergency calls and populate the 9-1-1 database with the correct location info.  Alternatively a local POTS line on the Adtran FXO port can be used for 9-1-1 at the remote site.
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            • Re: Bookend PRI across Site to Site
              b124jr New Member

              Thanks for the information. I tried the above but came to the realization that the circuits in the customer's PBX do not act as PRI circuits with D-channels on the connection. The customer has a Nortel PBX with the T1 connection spanning from the main site NT7B74GA-93 card to the remote location  NT7B74GA-93. Since they are not programmed as TDM-PRI slots, the above did not work. Is there a way for the 916e series to transport the T1 across ethernet like a 408e would without the use of the PRI and ISDN trunks?

               

              Nortel Card-->T1-->916e-->NV1544-->fiber-->NV1335-->916e-->916e-->T1-->Nortel Card

               

              If useful, the customer is currently using Transition SSDTF-100 media converters to transport the T1 from site to site. We are having to remove these due to fiber restrictions and to delivery lines on FXS ports for analog service.

               

              Thanks,

              Blake 

                • Re: Bookend PRI across Site to Site
                  jayh Hall_of_Fame

                  If the PBXs have a proprietary signaling method unique to the vendor that isn't either ISDN PRI or CAS robbed-bit then you're unlikely to be able to accomplish this with TA900 hardware.  You'll need some form of pseudowire TDM-over-Ethernet.  Adtran has this in their TA5000 chassis but that is several orders of magnitude overkill for this project.  If there's a spare SFP in the switches, RADUSA makes a nifty device that will do it.  I'm not sure of the rules here for referencing other vendors' hardware but Google is your friend.  Keep in mind that the pseudowire will consume about 2 Mbps of the link 24/7 regardless of whether there is traffic on it.  If there's limited bandwidth this could be an issue.

              • Re: Bookend PRI across Site to Site
                david Employee

                B124jr,

                 

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                Thanks,

                David